A few telling things in the regional operations, the Dash-8s in particular have hit a huge reliability wall, what is causing it is not clear, whether its lack of spend on spares, or the aircraft themselves are past the magic airframe time or just a fleet spread too thin, who knows. But it is severely affecting them in the regional market. A lot of cash and possibly fleet replacement is on the cards. Again comparing to Rex which has a whole setup aimed at keeping the SAAB flying and keeps them pretty reliable for the age, the QF Dashes are looking and feeling old and breeaking down far too regularly. At least the domestic product is OK, although the Melbourne terminal being a perpetual construction site compared to T4 at the moment is not helping. Still huge cancellations and delays at times, but at least VA is not doing a lot better on that front, and Rex is too small to make a dent yet,