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Old 24th Aug 2022, 23:13
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Originally Posted by ORAC
Kremlin propagandists are trying to convince their audiences that Ukrainians will somehow forgive and forget Putin's atrocities, making comparisons to Chechnya and ludicrously predicting that someday, shoulder to shoulder with Russians, Ukrainians will invade Poland and Germany.
Ukraine hasn't forgotten the Holodomor; not much chance that they will gloss over 2 invasions by Russia in 8 years. There is an implied assumption that "Russia" remains as it stands, and that would seem to be getting a less and less likely outcome. Rus is about to be getting asked uncomfortable questions on their general attitude to the constituent states of the Federation that have the right to stop being part of the Federation, and can stop being raped and pillaged to sustain the criminals in the Kremlin. Party is over, time to clean up (on aise 13...).

Ukraine is not going to trust Russia anytime in the near future, nor should they. Russia is a recidivist.

Russia is reminiscent of a worm-riddled apple, looks good until the first bite. Their military would be hard pressed now to take on Georgia, or Moldova, both of which are going to be pushing towards greater EU integration, as will any other states that have avoided drinking the Kool-aid. Don;t suggest that is a good thing or a bad thing, but Russia has managed to wipe out ((45/120) + (25/50))/(174+6).... so.... more or less, they are outta skilled warfighters. They can probably get the police and customs guys to arm up and go menace Primorski Krai, Dagestan, Tartarstan, etc. they can technical some Lada's, probably higher survivability than the special turret launch system T-72's from the Ural tractor factory.

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