Originally Posted by
Lonewolf_50
Let's not kid ourselves, Ukraine has had its problems with corruption over the past couple of decades. (Which was one of a number of obstacles to their joining the EU). As but one example, their former PM, Tymoshenko, ended up being convicted and IIRC went to prison. (Mind you, that whole process may have been a massive political ploy by political opponents based on her own efforts to deal with endemic corruption; a variety of charges against her over the years were eventually dismissed).
While that does not excuse an invasion, it might be best not to put on rose colored glasses. Of course, the first priority is to deal successfully with the invasion and sort out the other bits and pieces in due course. In the near term, supporting their efforts to repulse the invasion is going to take primacy over much else. (The dimwits from Amnesty International got that back to front).
Concur. It is one thing to have the countries own issues to deal with, all countries do to a greater or lesser extent, except my own country, which last had a leader in around 1988.... yet seems to muddle along adequately if not competently. Russia's corruption is on a higher plane (aviation content...)
Ukraine has not breached its treaties with other countries, that is all on the Russian side, and is in keeping with the contempt for agreements that Russia shows at every turn. OTOH, the speed that all countries let Ukraine hang out to dry after the agreement to remove nukes from their state was amazing. Enough shame to go around for some time. The excuses given were morally indefensible.