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Old 6th Aug 2022, 10:09
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Originally Posted by NutLoose
I must admit I have wondered if this is the Ukrainians plan for a while, make a big play for Kherson drawing Russian troops from elsewhere to bottle them up by dropping bridges and taking out their supply dumps and resupply lines thus rendering them less combat effective while maintaining the ability to accurately hit high value targets,
Thus while the other areas especially around the likes of Izyum, allow the Ukrainians a breathing space and the ability to stall the Russian advance by pushing on Izyum and cutting off the Russian main supply route into the region.
Nutty, you could be right, but the UF would need pretty good C&C and unimpeded supply chains to pull of something like that off. The lead up to Kherson was pretty much the antithesis of any of the Sun Tzu mantra's... hard to have the advantage of surprise when you are sending the plan to the Red Team by all mediums. About the only thing that doesn't rely on surprise is long range arty, and even then, it is a factor as stats show, the first salvo does the harm, the recipients are big on getting into cover otherwise. (the reason the PzH2K fires 5 rounds with simultaneous TOT).

A run to Izium and cutoff of the Red Teams NE MSR would be a pretty gutsy move...

The UF have shown an ability to be effective at interdiction, matching the Red Teams own goal on the train set with their own bit of mayhem on munitions trains. As difficult as things have been in the field for the UF, the C&C of the Team Bled has been pretty patchy, being short by 1000 officers of various flavours probably helps there.Pushing ground troops into Kherson right now without having depleted the Team Rouge's ammo would be difficult. The defence is still doing work well above their weight, but need more assistance from those that benefit from their standing the wall for the rest of us ingrates.

The Vermillions are still left with a problem in Kherson, their shortest supply route is pretty banged up, and the other options are limited and exposed too. The option for an Incheon moment has more or less gone to the bottom of the Black Sea, not before time.

Prefer that Puteen just decides to go home and tend to his flock there, as it does appear that the ball of wool that is the RF today is starting to get decidedly raggedy around the edges. there is a real risk that the overextended RF can no longer hold the union of love and kindness together, which should make for a need for lots of popcorn. At the rate that the carmines are going they will at least save on voting costs for the next celebration of Krimmin power, they will have Moscow and... St Pete's, and the rest of the great land will be looking towards their own independence from the yokels in the big cerise shed with the pointy roofs.

Russia is able to make threats that they have made since Sting made songs about their antics, China has the wheels coming off the rickshaw at an accelerating pace, and adds more reasons for the global supply chain to reset to countries that are less intent on pi$$ing off their customers and neighbours while endeavouring to support despotic Dear Leaders.

There were apparently some northerners in Formosa some 6,000 years back, but they didn't stay, they then returned to cause some mischief 5,500 years later, and then handed it over to the dudes from the land of far far away, who barely did anything to it. Post the antics of Mr & Mrs Mao, CKS and his band actually made something of the place, and it is a pretty darn neat place today. PRC has their hands full redoing the wheel nuts on the rickshaw, Taiwan adds nothing to their resume, and it alienates their faltering wonder economy from those that actually made that possible. "there be dragons... ".



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