Originally Posted by
dr dre
That’s not poor behaviour my friend, it’s how free market capitalism works, the Americans seem to champion it so much so they shouldn’t be surprised.
It’s an info session and not all the people who ticked yes on an internet form showed up. It wasn’t mandatory, they weren’t employed by said company. Obviously after considering the deal a lot of pilots decided they weren’t interested to the extent they didn’t feel the need to attend the roadshow. Obviously the conditions on offer couldn’t get pilots to the roadshow.
What I do find strange is stories of pilots abandoning Australian airlines for the US, even before beginning employment, and the vibe from some here is “ha ha ha, stupid Australian airlines, it’s awesome so many are abandoning them, they’re going to have to provide better deals to keep their staff”, whereas not showing up to this Spirit (considered at the bottom rung of US airlines) info day suddenly becomes “poor form, poor behaviour” on behalf of those pilots.
These airlines aren’t providing a charity and the pilots aren’t volunteering their time. This is a business transaction, plain and simple. No Australian pilot owes any US airline a single thing. I’m sure if the tables were turned these US carriers would drop them like a hot stone, circa 2000-2010. They want Australian pilots to work for them, they need to provide a better deal. It’s incumbent on them not pilots who didn’t turn up to a roadshow.
Or maybe it shows this notion that every second pilot in Australia, even major airline Captains, are desperate to flock to America is a bit of a furphy.
Mostly agree. I work for Spirit. Australians can go to PSA, Piedmont and (maybe??) Envoy and make a lot more money right out of the gate with immediate upgrade potential after 1000 hours. Spirit is doing nothing to match that at the moment. Even in second year with the premium pay and bonuses and captain pay match on offer I still don't think it's worthwhile in the eyes of a new hire. If you're looking at a 10 year horizon I could probably argue that Spirit offers more as you have a pretty low chance to flow on an E3, but for a quick buck, some fast jet PIC and an adventure with AA bennies? They got nothing.
Honestly, the more no shows the better, then we get out of bottom feeder status.