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Old 9th Jul 2022, 02:18
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Originally Posted by Recc
It is beyond dispute that regular Russian forces were fighting in Eastern Ukraine by summer 2014. There is a vast literature on the subject, and I don't think that anyone serious (and sincere) would claim differently. Here are a few example. You may also recall that the 53rd Anti-Aircraft Missile Brigade rather famously shot down a Malaysian airliner around this time.


https://web.archive.org/web/20150508...aine_FINAL.pdf
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...led-in-ukraine
https://video.vice.com/en_us/video/s...8008e821c71e52
No argument of a substantial Russian involvement, Crimea makes that obvious, but still see this as a senseless civil war within Ukraine, as the casualties show..
This was, precipitated by a post Maidan leadership that was 'led down a primrose path' as John Mearsheimer so eloquently put it.
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