Back in 98 during the Ryanair baggage handler strike in Dublin all males where called out of the Heead office to do baggage handling, and I was on shift with amongst others O'Leary, Eddie Wilson and the Chief Pilot. The pilot of one of the planes being loaded came over to the Chief Pilot and said; Remember back in the days when we where both new in Ryanair, I am a captain now and you are still loading the bags. Before that all new Ryanair chiefs had to do a stint in ground ops to get a feel for the airline.