Originally Posted by
Lima Juliet
I bet there are are some WSO's who have declined the new badge and continue to wear their 'N' and 'AE'
brevets. Same thing, really.
Just an observation (excuse the pun!), but it would appear that more AEOp/AEOs have switched to the new WSO
brevet than Navs - why is this? The only N-
breveted navs that I know that sport the WSO brevet are the ones that thought it might be good for their career
Also, I think it is dreadful that RAF stores no longer keep the older
brevets in stock. I've heard of Navs going on e-bay to buy their brevets. In 1952 did they cease stocking King's Crown Pilot's brevets - I doubt it!
If you read the book in post #2 (there's a copy in the RAF Club library) there is a big section on the new WSO
brevet. Originally, it was planned to be a 2-winged
brevet for Navs that flew in the boot of Tornado, Phantom and Buccaneer. But when some of the other fleets got wind of it (Nimrod, E3 and Truckies) they wanted 'in' and so it went back to the current debacle. I know a Nav who went from Tornado to E3 at the time of the change of brevet - he said that it was madness that he had flown 12 years as a Nav on a Tornado with weapons and now he was a Weapons Systems Officer (Nav) he flew the E3 with no weapons!!!
Finally, ACM Sir Simon Bryant was a Nav and he never changed to the new WSO
brevet. He was the first, and probably only, 4 star Nav.
LJ
PS. The older
brevets are here:
RAF Flying Badges_U
And the current ones are here:
RAF Flying Badges_U
What is really odd is that we have, since the instigation of WSO
brevets, invented new ones for Image Analysts to go with Airborne Techs and Fighter Controllers (or Air Battlespace Managers as they are now known) - what a cluster!