Originally Posted by
DaveDurban
Hi Flyfan,
The salary figures you mention are for the "top countries in the RYR network, in the vast majority of the network FO's are currently making way less then the figures you describe. Ie, Most spanish bases still on a forced 75% contract, Portugal FO's netting sub 3k mo, Malta FO's making sub 3k mo, and the list continues.
And not to forget when comparing salaries to competitors, with Ryanair you get minimal pension. Max 3,5K a year in most countries from RYR. So you need to take charge of this yourself and out money away from your own net pay. Also deduct from your salary all other expenses that normal companies cover, Food, Drink, uniform, hotels, transport, airport parking etc. etc. Once you factor all these in its shocking how little you actually make. Another very important thing to consider is that unless you are part of the very lucky few that actually get a base they want, RYR will send you to a base/country where you have 0 desire to be, so you end up commuting. Commuting is very expensive and time consuming. I would easely sacrifice a large part of salary to join a company where I can actually choose where I'm going to live.
Now this is just the salary part, about the pro's you listed;
5/4 roster is great, but not stable. Everytime the company does not get what it wants out of a "deal with pilots" the Threat or implement a 5/3 roster again. Like in the U.K. in 2020 for the most recent example. Also, in most "temporary" "Emergency agreements there are clossules that the company can hand out X amount of additional working off days a year, at their discretion WITHOUT you receiving a WOFF payment, and if you're send out of base you have to commute on your day 0 and 6. Not that stable now is it?
Your other arguments are valid, though I will say flights keep landing later and later..
RYR is getting COMPLETELY desperate, and by their own predictions they will run out of pilots in spring 23, latest. Rumours form credible sources are making the rounds that the recruiting department if being told to call back interviewees who failed the assessment, to hire them anyway (I can't see a flaw in this strategy). You have to be completely deranged to pay them 30K now, which compared to under the past working construction us NO longer tax deductible. Joining this scheme is signing yourself up for and endless period of poverty and depression, far from home.
Hi,
Many thanks for sharing your concerns.
Your allegations about being "desperate" and hire anyone who has failed "anyway" are totally unfounded and untrue.
As an airline with an unblemished 36-year safety record, we take great care and consideration when assessing hundreds of cadet pilots who may ultimately fly our aircraft through the AFA B737 Type Rating Training Programme.
Thank you.
Best regards,
Recruitment Team