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Old 2nd Apr 2022, 06:42
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sunnySA
 
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Originally Posted by Geoff Fairless
Sunny - I think Dick is interested because ATSB mention it in the Mangalore Investigation report
Yes, ABS-B gets several mentions but no safety recommendation.

Originally Posted by Geoff Fairless
... the company had made the investment themselves so their pilots could see each other.
SouthEast Aviation obviously made an investment in safety to improve the situational awareness of their pilots.

Originally Posted by ACMS
ADSB in is an option on Airbus selectable by the owner.
Originally Posted by ACMS
Sadly most Airlines don’t option it.
Why? There is a long list of very questionable decisions made by those charged with responsibility for selecting aircraft. QF A332/A333 comes to mind. Big lags between placing an order, delivery and then the operational use of the aircraft which could be 10-25 years.

Aircraft avionics are light years ahead of ATC systems.

TAAATS is more than 20 years old and never was optimised but rather managed through a series of workarounds. What % of suggested improvements were ever adopted - 5%? Why, because the bean counters didn't agree, because AsA needs to provide a dividend to the government, because the Industry didn't want to pay for enhancements?

Originally Posted by Lead Balloon
But surely it would be mandated for all transport category passenger carrying aircraft in Australia. Surely the cost would pale into insignificance when compared to the reduced risks to the safety of air navigation.
Couldn't agree more but there needs to be a coherent vision for Australian Airspace management and technology. I understand that this is the responsibility of ASTRA

The Australian Strategic Air Traffic Management Group, ASTRA, is an aviation industry body dedicated to developing an optimum air traffic management system for Australia. As such, it is the Federal Government’s primary source of industry advice on air traffic management directions.
ASTRA brings together all of the industry stakeholders including aircraft operators, airports and service providers to develop and continuously review the ASTRA Strategic Air Traffic Management Plan and develop a recommended Target Operational Concept.
ASTRA also provides an industry-wide representative forum for developing the industry position on ATM matters as the basis for strategic advice to Government, and to coordinate agreed integrated ATM planning, development and implementation effort by all relevant ATM stakeholders.
Still functioning?

Originally Posted by ATSB-AO-2020-012
The ATSB also notes that ADS-B receivers, suitable for use on aircraft operating under both instrument or visual flight rules, are currently available within Australia at low cost and can be used without any additional regulatory approval or expense.
Yes, but no safety recommendation.

The National Airspace System is reliant on individual, groups and organisations all making an informed decisions to contribute to safety. It shouldn't be down to the individual PIC/ATC.








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