Originally Posted by
Tartiflette Fan
Given that Russian aircraft are being brought down frequently with manpads and very little damage is reported as a result of bombing, but rather artillery and rockets, I think this must be ignored. I have now moved completely to the view that Selensky is cynically trying his best to drag any NATO country into this war, so that it broadens the conflict and relieves pressure on Ukraine.
This must not happen. His words and pictures of suffering children must be ignored ( in this case ). There is a very real risk of this moving to some kind of nuclear level if NATO becomes involved, and for that Selensky becomes a total **** in my eyes in trying to engineer this. The help he is getting with ATGW and manpads is the most effective at the moment and, by all accounts, very large numbers are getting through;
You are such a wonderful empathetic person aren't you? Yes, let's ignore the suffering of children and the wider populace of a country on our doorstep.
It's
Zelenskyy by the way, not Selensky. If you're going to accuse someone of cynically trying anything then at least have the common courtesy to use his actual name.
"Being a ****'? It's alright for you to say such things, sat no doubt in you Savoie retirement home, boring all comers with "Cold War Warrior" stories of getting drunk in Hamburg. His people are dying at the hands of a ruthless Dictator who has been emboldened over the years by Western appeasement.
Perhaps you need reminding that two of the biggest members of NATO (US and UK) signed an agreement, along with Russia, to respect Ukraine's independence, sovereignty and borders, as well as not use threats of force and economic pressure against Ukraine. The price? Ukraine's large nuclear stockpile.
Do you think Russia would have taken the actions it has, both in 2014 and now, if Ukraine hadn't given up its most effective defensive weapons for a promise from the US, UK and Russia?
It's time for the US and UK to stand by their commitment to Ukraine.