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Old 25th January 2022 | 10:44
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Lantirn
 
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Nice that the subject got hot.

About the "passing 10000ft unrel speed" case:

Sonicbum and vilas, your posts imply applying the memo items before going to QRH and then ECAM to do the switching or whatever the ECAM is.

What I can understand is, that when on cruise you dont apply if the safety is not affected. When on takeoff its affected, so you apply memo.

In the 10000ft scenario just using a pitch obtained from memo items, without completing the memos seems like an improvisation. And an improvisation can have some of the memos, added actions like "leveling off", switching controls (which is really big no no again if you are not sure from QRH which side is correct) , other personal techniques and then where is that red line? You can have endless personal opinions. From these posts Sonicbum implies AP/FD/ATHR off, while vilas talks about CLB 5. Respect both. Of course its a forum and I know that maybe you didnt explain by detail exactly the steps, but you got my message. Techniques can be endless but airbus procedures are specific. And the airbus procedures werent clear for me for that phase.Thats why I made the question in the beginning.

I have done a level off it in the sim by memory, but in the end I was thinking that that maybe was a bull!!!!. Unluckily my instructor didnt tell me anything.
The reason that I adopted this subconsciously was to avoid the overspeed warning from the erratic block pitot tube during further climb, which gave me the sense of a correct completion of the exercise because the overspeed warning never occured.

Now about the subject of personal pitch and power settings memorization that pilots do, I find it perfectly normal because this is what saves your day in the end. Also your colleague might also give you wrong values from the QRH, which has happened especially with new F/Os. How to use it and when to use it is what we discuss here. I think its a good habit to know soma basic values.
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