Thank you, Flieger, points noted.
Re the NSW Health doc, leaving the unqualified to interpret raw data is not ideal when people don’t understand the difference between relative and absolute risk.
43 inches said:
If you contract covid;
1. You are 9 times more likely to be hospitalised if unvaccinated.
WRONG. From your document, at 13.5% the no-dose people are only 5.1% more likely to be hospitalised than those with 2 doses (8.4%). Hardly a damning figure.
2. You are 15 times more likely to end up in ICU if unvaccinated.
WRONG. From your document, unvaxed are 1.9% more likely.
3. You are at least 30 times more likely to die if unvaccinated.
Wow! Quite an alarming statistic. Fortunately, that myth is also busted. WRONG again. Your document says unvaxed are 0.2% less likely to die than two-dosed people. If that wild claim was true we’d be seeing hundreds of deaths per day given the admissions we are now seeing on how many deaths were of vaccinated people.
Using that system, if one unvaxed person was infected and died you’d tell everyone they are 100% likely to die of covid if they catch it without a jab. That’s the problem with people playing with stats they don’t understand. You have to be exposed to be infected and this is unrelated to vaccination status except to say that if you lock up all the unvaxed, only the vaxed are left to spread it amongst themselves.
The lack of impartiality of NSW Health toward the interpretation of their stats by the unqualified public is evident in their helpful note on P30:
Originally Posted by NSW Health
“The percentage of cases who died is slightly higher for those with two effective doses compared to those with no effective dose because elderly people were more likely to have received two doses before or during this period.”
They don’t want anyone getting the “wrong idea” about an inconvenient stat which doesn’t suit the narrative. By default though they’ve illustrated where the greatest risk is.
Of course the stats above are almost entirely related to Delta and not the current strain so the numbers for the current times will be even more balanced.
Some condensed definitions from your document to help illustrate the misinformation:
Originally Posted by NSW Health
“People with COVID-19 can be hospitalised because of the disease but may also be hospitalised for other reasons not related to their COVID-19 diagnosis. …reported hospitalisation counts include all people who were admitted to any hospital ward … around the time of their COVID-19 diagnosis. This does not mean that all … are due to a worsening of COVID-19 symptoms.”
People who have bad covid experiences usually have other conditions, which often means hospitalisation. That should be obvious by now.
Originally Posted by NSW Health
“A COVID-19 death is defined … as a death in a confirmed COVID-19 case, unless there is a clear alternative cause of death that cannot be related to COVID-19 (e.g., trauma).”
They are still allowing the unqualified and the wilfully pigheaded to incorrectly presume covid caused each reported death.
On the elderly, the comments on treatment of the aged are confused and aimless. You said anyone unvaccinated isn’t doing the right thing by our aged and should be judged, I said people have already done not-well by our aged and should already have been judged, you attempted to twist things with something bizarre about Soylent Green and eating people and lost the point.
The bottom line is, most people are vaccinated and the case numbers are still going through the roof. Aussie Bob pointed this out and everyone jumped on him.
Just get vaxed.