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Old 29th Dec 2021, 09:56
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Originally Posted by A_Van
This already happened, but in the opposite direction. Pro-nazi Ukrainian nationalists threw bottles with this "cocktails" to the Russian consulate in Lvov (Lviv). Russia replied with the diplomatic note, only.

Regarding troops.
1. Ukraine concentrated more troops near the border than Russia (more than a half of their army) and started doing it first. Why this fact is not addressed when blaming Russia?
2. Any country is free to locate their forces on its territory. Imagine Cuba would start demanding to remove all the US forces out of Florida because they are too close to "the island of freedom" and they are scared?

Regarding escalation.
1. If any country plans to attack another, the first thing is to break all diplomatic and trade links, withdraw the personnel and warn its citizens that the territory is unsafe and they should relocate. Is this happening? No.
2. IMO, Russia has one serious move in its pocket - to recognise Donetsk and Lugansk as independent states. Like it did with South Ossetia and Abhazia after Georgia started the war and killed many Russian peacekeeping staff there. After that it can sign treaties to secure their security. But there are no signs of such warnings as yet.
You’re living in cuckoo land,

Ukraine may have more troops at the borders, but that was only in direct response to the threat of invasion that proved correct when you invaded Crimea, which no matter how you dress it up was Russia, and now those troops are preventing the loss of more of the Country while attempting to regain the lands lost, funny is put it, the never needed to put them on the western borders because they never feared an invasion from the west.

Recognise independent states….. what like they did with Poland, East Germany, Romania, Etc etc etc, all supposedly independent states answering to and under the control of Russia.

As for the Molotov Cocktails, as I said, bomb your own building then blame it on a neo nazi group to add to the list of excuses / reasons to eventually invade.
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