Originally Posted by
H Peacock
Read the earlier posts. Mis-set Alt Sel meant the FD didn't give an initial take-off pitch target, instead it was probably in Alt. Have a read of post #15!
The assumption therefore being that the PF didn't apply any significant nose-up to rotate until they got to the far end of the rwy.
And EK reaps what it sows, and learns nothing.
The Joberg over-run years ago? Bad training and over relience on generated, rather than raw information.
The 777 hull loss, including a fatality? bad training and fear culture coupled with too much relience on automation.
This one? Ddidn't rotate because the FD didn't say to? Really???
Not long before leaving I had a (non) incident,complete with frog-march to the office, becaue I disconnected the AP to correct a rapidly decreasing airspeed due to windshear and the 777s habit of going into ALT CAP early.
The verdict? You should have let the automation deal with it until stck shaker.
Thise who do not learn from the past are apt to repeat it....