@#58, #59, #60;
Thanks all, interesting, (but a bit scary to be honest !).
I remember in my early training days being in the back of a PA-28, with an instructor and my colleague in the front. They were flying below MORA near the Sandy television mast (UK) in legal - though not brilliant - VMC. I piped up and suggested it would be a very good idea to get above MORA - especially since none of us knew exactly where the mast was - which I am very pleased to say they did.
Re Gordy's circuit, ah, the sort of circuit with wires. Sorry, I was thinking flying circuits - Doh !
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