I have to agree with you Timmy. Professional pilots should remember that this is the "spectators Balcony" Forum and factor in that not all spectators/spotters are au fait with what to a pro may be considered as a fairly mundane event. The OP is obviously fairly new to PPRuNe and simply asked a question. Answering the question as best as possible (as wiggy did) is a lot more educational than making snide remarks! What is obvious to many in the industry is not always so to others. The rubbish spewed out by the press never helps either. If questions in the spotters forum annoy you then just stay out.