Originally Posted by
theheadmaster
You have stated on several posts what you believe are the circumstances an employer can mandate vaccination. To clarify for you and for others that may be confused, the Fair Work website states the following:
Can an employer require an employee to be vaccinated?
Employers can only require their employees to be vaccinated where:
See Fair Work web site:
https://coronavirus.fairwork.gov.au/...-the-workplace
Note, that there are circumstances other than a health order or employment contract/EA where an employer can mandate vaccination - where it is 'lawful and reasonable'. Note also that 'lawful and reasonable' is not what you might believe is 'reasonable', but a legal test of fact.
Great post. It'll be interesting to see how it plays out though as not everything the gov't mandates is immune to successful legal challenge and the wheels of justice turn slowly most of the time (they certainly will for anyone challenging a health order).
There was an interesting commentary in The Australian today in which was addressed, amongst other things, the fear which has been deliberately sowed in the community to help induce compliance among the masses. Obviously you'd disagree though in that the coercion has not abated with the arrival of vaccines but in fact increased, much to the unbounded joy of so many zealots who are climbing over themselves to do the gov't's dirty work for them:
"Until the arrival of vaccines, governments around the world relied on behavioural psychology to coerce citizens to comply with the most extreme quarantine rules imposed for over a century. The public were fed a non-stop diet of bad news devoid of context. New cases have been highlighted rather than deaths, hospitalisations and recoveries, which would have painted a very different picture of the level of threat. It would no doubt be news to most people that 88% of those who have died of Covid-19 or required acute hospital care suffered from at least one other serious condition and that by far the best predictor of life-threatening infection is obesity. The population-wide strategy pursued in most countries would not have been helped by highlighting these and other facts governments, to varying degrees, have suppressed."
On state handling of the event:
"The elevated level of fear in Australia, even now, is exacerbated by the existence of crisis cabinets and the retention of emergency powers. For most people, the unprecedented use of force by Victorian police is not a sign that freedom is being eroded, but a reminder of how bad the virus must be."
And on the bureaucracy:
"The extraordinary powers given to chief health officers since the start of last year has eroded the authority of parliament, diminished the standing of our state political leaders and devalued democracy. It has delivered the kind of policy blunders that become inevitable when too much power is placed in the hands of a few. We have seen the kind of tin-eared insensitivity to human feelings that results from empowering bureaucrats paid to follow the rule book."
It's a sad day when the average Aussie wholeheartedly jumps on board with this totalitarianism but the vast majority of the masses appear to have played their role to the hilt as evidenced:
If some numbnut submits a fake certificate and then gets kicked out of QF, I will laugh so hard I may actually rupture a blood vessel.