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Old 27th Sep 2021, 11:12
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Originally Posted by De_flieger
I can't read the Wall Street Journal article, as it's behind a paywall, and the two links to science.org are duplicates of the same article. That said, from what they show, having natural immunity from a prior infection, followed by a vaccination, looks to provide very good protection at least against the same variants. The link by 43Inches seems to show that it's not quite as straightforward as it first appears though. The important point though is that immunity is present among the survivors. The dead don't have or require that immune response, and there's a human and societal cost involved in getting that exposure-linked immunity. The natural immunity may be "better" in terms of antibody response or whatever other factors they are measuring in those studies you refer to, but worse by other measures such as the rates of death in acquiring that immunity or cost to society, so it's important to look at what is being measured and its context before making a blanket statement about what is better.

Quoting directly from your linked science.org article:


Given the rate of dying, or long covid symptoms that will keep you off work or cost you your Class 1 medical is not trivial, gaining that immunity through natural infection is a lot riskier than getting vaccinated. So a better way to look at it would be "survivors appear to have a good immune response to covid". Which is fine as long as you're in the survivor group that doesn't experience long term symptoms, and the disease doesn't spread at a rate that requires widespread hospitalisation and you can't get a bed for an unrelated issue that requires hospitalisation. Most people assume they will be in the survivor group right up until the doctor starts asking about end-of-life care and powers of attorney.
Forgive me I rush read but quickly a reply.

Can you please give some detail on this (bolded) group?

If so those that are not High risk prior to a first, second or third infection?

Also the projected break thru infections an Delta & the expected mutant variant?

There are many things not known, and history has a few things that make requirements for questions to be asked and NOT answered by Lawyers with impunity. That is not the ones in courts but the ones in the houses.

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