FH, you're both an ignorant and arrogant sod who knows little, sorry Mods. I was born within a few days of Chuck flying his first combat mission, if you knew of Chuck's real history and personality you wouldn't be giving him the over fawning idolatry, but then you're a Yank and he's one of yours. Bonehead helicopter pilot heh, how many close calls have you had where the same analysis could have been made, don't say none, because you'd be lying.