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Old 31st Aug 2021, 07:11
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De_flieger
 
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Originally Posted by Muttley Crew
It's a silly comparison but if you discovered you were being lied to by the aircraft manufacturers, regulators, instructors, etc about how safe your aircraft is to fly, would that change your mind about it?

I'm not accusing anyone of lying but it now looks like McAnulty is effectively admitting NSW Health reporting has been misleading us all about deaths with versus from Covid, but we've known that for a while. This means people who worry about dying from Covid think the situation is worse than it really is when in fact not all the deaths can be attributed to Covid. The media support it. These frightened people then make their decisions accordingly. Health decisions based on faulty data... not good.

Here's the 20-Aug-21 release of VAERS data uploaded to the MedAlerts page of the National Vaccine Information Centre. You can read about about each case of the 18 post-vaccination deaths (12-17 only) in the latest report. It looks like these vaccines might not be the best things to inject into a kid.

There are over 13,600 deaths reported in total going back to December in the NVIC.

If you hunt around you'll also see in this release the 12-17yo group has in the same period also experienced thousands of reports of anaphylaxis, myocarditis and blood-clotting cases. Then there's the rest of the population >17yo.

Maybe VAERS and NVIC people are lying to us and implying vaccines are worse than we think but in the absence of an admission to that effect it might all be worth a re-think. Alternatively, you can just believe everything you read in the Sydney Morning Herald and be happy with your choice.
What I don't understand, and this is across anti-vaxxers in general and also shown here in this specific case - IF your theory is that Big Government and Big Pharma are working together with financial interests and corruption and lying about the risks, and that you can't trust the CDC that is recommending the vaccines and things, why would the very same CDC run a website that lists adverse events following vaccination? Why would you say the CDC is lying and corrupt when they say "get your vaccination", but then trust the same CDC to run a website on other closely related matters? Surely (sarcasm here) the corrupt masterminds behind this nefarious scheme would be able to modify their own website, that they run, to cover up and minimise apparent risks or illnesses and deaths that occur post-vaccination.

But as has been pointed out elsewhere, VAERS has it's own issues, with self-reporting and selection among other things, and people thinking that because something occurred post-vaccination means it was caused by vaccination. Searching more broadly through that VAERS dataset, there are people that are reporting pregnancy following various vaccines - while there may have been some form of injection involved, I doubt it was caused by the vaccination!
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