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Old 23rd Aug 2021, 11:28
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Hmm. The fatality rate published by Public Health England for those under fifty shows that more youngsters die if they’re vaccinated than if they’re not. “Vaccine passports” are now dead in the water, especially with a population already irate with the government and a squeamish Johnson.
Not sure what you mean by youngsters, no vaccines are approved for under 12 yet in the UK or USA, and not expected for another 4-6 months.

As for higher mortality of vaccinated we covered that way back 100 posts ago, that's just skewed data as the vaccine does give many people total immunity, the few that get severe breakthrough have a higher rate only. The UK study also found that some of the Unvaxed were on their second go at covid, ie had been reinfected, so had some immunity. There is no doubt that vaccination was proved to be 80-97% effective and preventing, and reducing symptoms and death rate.

Also be very careful when reading data out of context, as in what level of vaccination did they have, the Israeli study on Pfizer had people that only had one shot at the start, so vaccinated was from 1 shot to two shots and minimum 2 weeks post full vaccination. It was quite clear in the Israeli study that within 2 weeks of the first shot the infection rate was similar to unvaxed and by 45 days, or complete vaccination + 2 weeks the vaccinated cohort virtually had no infection and similar drop in hospitalisation.

https://www.bbc.com/news/explainers-55718553

Covid passes seem far from dead, only news about them at the moment is Boris stuffed up some legislation with regard to forcing nightclubs to only allow vaccinated patrons in. Otherwise their use for travel and other things is ongoing. Otherwise you will need a NHS Covid pass to go clubbing from September.

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