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Old 14th Aug 2021, 09:27
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43Inches
 
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No misplaced faith at all, spent a number of days last week talking to actual doctors in a hospital. They pretty much all agreed the data from around the world is unanimous in that the vaccines reduce deaths and hospitalisations from Covid in as much as 97%. If the data you presented is accurate it goes directly against what health care professionals are being informed. BTW they were all 100% vaccinated some with AZ. Doctors and nurses, many with stories of friends with long covid from last years episode.

I'm, mostly fighting to get people to vaccinate because I've seen and talked to medical staff who are just frustrated with the crap circulating on this, basically trying to help them out, as they are the ones on the front line that cop it when it gets out of control. That and the others that actually argue with them while they are dieing of covid that covid doesn't exist. The ****e you see people do in hospitals just goes beyond belief, when all the staff are doing is trying to help.

So 43inches - There is some data for you. You may have a tad misplaced faith in the vaccines. Delta is winning the war. Vaccinations passports - Useless/pointless.
I just read the document, you have either been intentionally mischievous or not understood it properly.

The Delta Death vs Vaccintated or Unvaccinated has to be done vs age group.

SO in the over 50 bracket. The total that received two doses and died was 389 of 21,472 cases, 1.8%, 1131 needed overnight hospitalisation 5.3%. The total Unvaxed death rate was 205 of 3440 cases, 6%, 670 hospitalised overnight, 20%.

Those figures show about 75% reduction in severity of outcomes for the vaccinated, that's still pretty compelling evidence vaccinations are doing what they should.

One thing that really stands out is that under 50, 4 times more infections were among unvaccinated than vaccinated. Thats why your total figures came to a skewed answer, only 20,000 under 50 vaccinated had the virus, vs 147,000 unvaccinated with virus. So if you grouped them with the over 50s it would give you a flawed death rate. Fact is it shows that as well as slowing symptoms it is actually infecting less vaccinated persons. Connsidering the majority of the UK is now vaccinated to have such one sided figures means there is some complete immunity happening at a high rate.

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