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Originally Posted by Icarus2001

Well there it is, twelve people. How many were close to death from other causes?

Couldn't tell you for sure. There was one in their 90s, eight in their 80s, and one each in their 70s, 50s and 30s.

Just by the bye, is this "woulda died anyway" discount approach going to be a thing moving forward? We could shave 12.5 percent off the actual road toll numbers by ignoring the 75 years old and overs killed in road accidents. Deaths by suicide would fall by around 7.5 percent if you just took out all the over 75s on the basis that they were on their way out anyway. Roger Dean could probably get his 11 counts of murder knocked down to simple arson.

Originally Posted by Icarus2001

You guys need some perspective, how many people have died this year from flu, diabetes, car crashes, suicides, allergies?

Flu - zero, according to last week's Influenza Surveillance Report.

Diabetes - is that died from or died with? That seems to be a popular distinction in some circles these days. Died from, as in diabetes being the underlying cause of death, probably around 2,800 based on historical numbers.

Car crashes - 562 or so, but only about 490 if you don't count the 75s and older.

Suicides - probably around 1,900 based on historical data, but with your "One foot in the grave" discount only around 1,760.

Allergies - as in acute allergic reactions (anaphylaxis), probably only 14 or 15 based on historical information.