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Old 19th Jun 2021, 21:12
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Fl1ingfrog
 
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joke” So if the PPC is carried out in Controlled Airspace does the ATC log PIC time as he is directing the flight? You know that ‘turn port, turn starboard, climb or descend, slow to 150 KTS, hold at the Wifflebank NDB’ and such.” Joke over.
The PIC never ceases to remain so even when flying subject to RADAR control. You were quite right to refer to your scenario as a joke.

I would have thought the following is obvious but for those who wish to have it spelt out here it is. I do not know of any ICAO member country who deviates from any the following.

The pilot-in-command of an aircraft shall have final authority as to the disposition of the aircraft while in command. Both FAR 91.3(b) and ICAO Annex 2, par. 2.3.1, specifically empower the PIC to override any other regulation in an emergency, and to take the safest course of action at his/her sole discretion.

U.S. FAA and ICAO pilot in command regulations

Logging pilot in command time

Under U.S. FAA FAR 14 CFR 61.51,[6] logging flight time as a PIC is different and distinct from acting as the legal PIC for a flight. In general, the PIC of a given flight may always log his or her flying time as such, while other crew members may or may not be authorized to log their time on that flight as PIC time, depending on the specific circumstances and the controlling jurisdiction.[7]


The Pilot in Command must hold the rank of Captain, and typically sits in the left seat. The second in command can be a First Officer or another Captain, and will occupy the right seat. An exception exists where a Captain is being trained, in which case two Captains will occupy the cockpit, a Training Captain will be the Pilot in Command and will occupy the right seat.The pilot in command (PIC) of an aircraft is the person aboard the aircraft who is ultimately responsible for its operation and safety during flight. This would be the captain in a typical two- or three-pilot aircrew, or "pilot" if there is only one certificated and qualified pilot at the controls of an aircraft. The PIC must be legally certificated (or otherwise authorized) to operate the aircraft for the specific flight and flight conditions, but need not be actually manipulating the controls at any given moment. The PIC is the person legally in charge of the aircraft and its flight safety and operation, and would normally be the primary person liable for an infraction of any flight rule.

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