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Old 28th May 2021, 08:25
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Originally Posted by Guptar
Just curious - does 2 independant GPS systems qualify as 2 x long range nav equipment.

1) Consider a Phenom 300E as an example. It has 2 GPS systems and 2 x CDU FMS interface screens. Does that consitute 2 x long range nav systems as there is no provision for IRS on this aircraft.

Are those systems MNPS approved out of the box.

2) Can an owner pilot get certified to use MNPS airspace or is that reserved for operators with an AOC.
Speaking as an EASA sufferer, 2 GPSes are enough, provided they have the required RNP rating (which they usually have)

for 2) - In EASA lalaland, MNPS is an SPA - an authorization you need to have approved. Now as an NCC Operator in EASA, you have to have a manual that is NOT approved by the authorities. The SPA then usually is an approved part of the unapproved manual. At least with the German LBA that process was relatively straight forward. How non-EASA user get their approval, I donīt know but it should be fairly easy as long as the A/C is RVSM/RNP wise capable and the crew is trained. (which in turn is part of the SPA at least in our case) CBT training is accepted.

This is the authorative document: ICAO NAT Manual

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