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Old 2nd Apr 2021, 09:29
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Why is it not possible to simply apply for a new EASA licence off the back of training / licences held pre-Brexit when said training or licences would have met all EASA standards, regulations and oversight? I understand the UK is now recognised as a third country and anything issued from 1st Jan 2021 onwards suffers a different fate but I’m unable to find any regulation that would not make this possible. Infact EASA adopted that when JAR became EASA:

COMMISSION REGULATION (EU) No 1178/2011

of 3 November 2011

laying down technical requirements and administrative procedures related to civil aviation aircrew pursuant to Regulation (EC) No 216/2008 of the European Parliament and of the Council

Article 9

Credit for training commenced prior to the application of this Regulation

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In respect of issuing Part-FCL licences in accordance with Annex I, training commenced prior to the application of this Regulation in accordance with the JARs and procedures, under the regulatory oversight of a Member State recommended for mutual recognition within the Joint Aviation Authorities’ system in relation to the relevant JARs, shall be given full credit provided that the training and testing were completed by 8 April 2016 at the latest and a Part-FCL licence is issued by 1 April 2020 at the latest.

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2.

Training commenced prior to the application of this Regulation in accordance with Annex 1 to the Chicago Convention shall be given credit for the purposes of issuing Part-FCL licences on the basis of a credit report established by the Member State in consultation with the Agency.

3.

The credit report shall describe the scope of the training, indicate for which requirements of Part-FCL licences credit is given and, if applicable, which requirements applicants need to comply with in order to be issued with Part-FCL licences. It shall include copies of all documents necessary to demonstrate the scope of the training and of the national regulations and procedures in accordance with which the training was commenced.

Is it simply because this wasn’t negotiated by the UK in the TCA agreement? As far as I understand it there is still scope for further adoption of Annexes by both sides into said agreement:

  • The first stages of that agreement have been incorporated in the Aviation Safety Title of the TCA. The TCA commits the parties to establish a Specialised Committee on Aviation Safety which is empowered to adopt Annexes for personnel licensing, ATM, aircraft operations and other areas covered by the Chicago Convention. Once agreed, each party is obliged to accept findings of compliance and certificates issued by the other party in accordance with any Annex.
Understandably there is a lot of heat on this topic so presumably it’s politically driven but theres little to be gained in all reality. Regardless of what licence you may have Brexit has removed certain fundamental working privileges from both sides of the channel which remains the biggest hinderance.

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