I noticed that pilots who struggle have two issues they are too fast in pitch up causing secondary stall warning and then hanging around three to five degrees of pitch getting VFE exceedance. When I have talked them through the manoeuvre they do it without a problem. So basically inadequate scan. Actually landing configuration gear down direct law stall is easier as you rarely get secondary stall warning why is that? And high level stall like FL 350 stall warning sounds when well inside the amber Barber pole. In alternate law there's VLS and below that is Vsw. Isn't it supposed to be the top of Vsw scale?