Originally Posted by
condor17
Off Rwy 24 at Manchester , very quiet day so given direct Otringham and climb , with No speed restriction. Tightened the bank angle and reduced speed to 140kts [ ATP ] . They tried to 'boxxxx' me for coming off min noise route , which were designed at 210-250 kts . They had forgotten at 140 we'd have a smaller radius of turn . We went up well so less noise , saved fuel , and time as well.
If quiet at LHR , back in the day our rented in 737-300s with all derates out could easily get above FL100 at EPM or Burnham from Westerly departures .
Chevvron , remember full clearances with readback . Never read out as fast as US controllers did , thankfully . When I retired we were getting them on Acars [ data link ] , but the 744s still had NDBs !
rgds condor .
It was only Heathrow departures where DO woiud pass 'standard XXX One departure climb to flight level XXX', other airfields like Luton and Gatwick had some very quaint IFR departures eg westerley Luton departures via WOR were 'Beacon Hill, Burnham, Chersey and Dunsfold at 4,000ft, climb when instructed by London radar to flight level XXX'; for an easterley departure it was 'Brookmans Park, Kilburn, Epsom and Dunsfold at 4,000'etc.