MPN 11. Minute 19:45. Four airframes, pilots and their sqns named. Thanks for that. I was lucky enough to meet Joe Kmiecik, when I was doing a refresher at Oakington in '73. "Just say "come here chick" quickly" Fascinating man to listen to, and I can well believe him flying at 30'. One of his party-pieces when he was flying Lancasters was a fast fly-by, pull to the vertical, cut two engines on one side, stall-turn into the dead engines and land off it.