Originally Posted by
goodonyamate
there you go again. Where did anyone say they were owed something. It was brought up that QF pilots had been explicitly told by the acting CP that there would be LWOP opportunities. That was posted here. QF pilots who may be eligible saw this as a green shoot. Then you came in bagging everyone and anyone who’d ever had anything to do with QF and apparently started some kind of movement to ban QF pilots from everything.
I haven’t seen many if any current alliance crew jump in. You’re not that bloke who offered to crew the 350 with ex China Southern crew are you?
No idea what you are talking about with China Southern and crewing an A350. I never heard about that. What’s this ‘There you go again’ nonsense. Nobody said anything bad about QF pilots or denying some deal between Alliance and Qantas to crew E-jets.
The argument was who gets the final say. You seem to think QF has some kind of legal agreement in place and can demand what they want with regards to what pilots fly Alliance aircraft, they don’t. They allowed Alliance to fly regional routes for them, routes they were losing money on by the way with the 737. That’s the deal in place, the rest is just a bonus
Under that agreement, very much an ACMI style agreement, they provide aircraft, crew, Mx and Insurance. They will try to help out QF international crew but Alliance has the final say, not Qantas. Alliance is an independent company with independent management. Qantas get no say in the day to day running of the company or who crew their aircraft.
Im not sure why you find this so hard to understand. It’s nothing to do with liking or disliking QF pilots. Do you think Virgin get any say in who fly Alliance aircraft and on what routes, of course they don’t and they have done work for them.
Its a simple wet lease with all crew being Alliance crew paid by Alliance. VA get no say and neither will Qantas, just a favor done to try help their international pilots. That favor includes QF paying for all their training and absorbing the costs.
Alliance did not get the contract on condition they hired QF staff, they got the contract regardless of whether they took on QF staff. Alliance don’t have enough pilots so this financial agreement benefits them. However type rated will be hired first, I know this for a fact. Secondly if Alliance choose to replace those QF pilots at any stage they have every right to and there is not a thing Qantas can do about it.
They are an independent company and not beholden to Qantas in any way shape or form. This is not an anti QF pilot rant.