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Momoe
How is a death certificate a more comprehensive and reliable measure of the impact of Covid19, when an ambulance crew declares life extinct, this is normally followed by a doctor attending and confirming/issuing a death certificate, as previously stated, they were sealed, bagged and interred. No examination, just a death certificate that stated cause of death - Covid19. That is not more comprehensive, it's far less, admittedly due to exigent circumstances.
Not sure what you're getting at, but the recording of statistics from death certificates includes deaths that extended beyond 28 days from a positive test, so this is considered more comprehensive. Maybe this article explaining how doctors go about the process of writing a death certificate will help?:
Anti-vaxxers say death certificate guidelines suggest COVID-19 death rate is overstated. Experts beg to differ
Captain Sir Tom was dying of pneumonia, he tested positive for Covid19 and that's what's on the death certificate.
How did you see a British person's private medical information? How many co-morbidities did he have listed on his death certificate?
A patient can die with a lot of co-morbidities and causes. Unless a full autopsy or coronial inquest is done it can be a bit difficult to ascertain how much of the morbidity was influenced by each factor. You can excuse British medical workers for having higher priorities on their hands at the moment.
I'm a bit lost at your point, are you saying that Covid deaths are not causing significantly greater deaths than normal because they stuffed up how they report it on death certificates?
It can be a bit confusing with all these factors and co-morbidities and the like, experts get around this by using excess mortality.
A focus on just confirmed and suspected deaths misses out on those deaths from other causes resulting from more indirect effects of Covid-19. For example, deaths can occur when health systems are strained or overwhelmed and unable to provide sufficient or quality care — think of non-Covid-19 patients requiring ICU beds in units already over capacity due to the pandemic. Deaths can also arise from delays in going to the hospital among those needing care due to fear of getting infected during their stay. And lastly there are deaths stemming from Covid-19’s interactions with noncommunicable diseases such as diabetes, heart disease, cancer, kidney disease, and others.
Measuring excess mortality gives a clearer picture of the pandemic’s true burden
Also check out the CDC graph of excess death in the US in recent years, compare the 17/18 flu season with the Covid Pandemic on the graph:
Excess Deaths Associated with COVID-19