Originally Posted by
Vessbot
You cut out and didn’t answer the first question, which was why the rotor is not subject to the forces/behaviors of rotating bodies. It’s only after that, that you can try to substitute some other force in and explain why it’s subject to it as… a non-rotating body? Whatever that might even mean.
No, I don’t admit that. You’re again being obtuse and throwing out every bit of nuance, to set up this false all-or-nothing dichotomy where if the behavior is not exactly like a pure gyroscope, then there is no gyroscopic effect. And that is just not so. There is a gyroscopic effect, among other effects present at the same time.
Can you say what you mean by “LIKE” a gyro? Does the motion only look the same but something different causes it to look like that? Is there some part of the force arrangement that makes a gyro behave like a gyro, that is lacking in a rotor? What is the force that is lacking?
Eric Laithwaite waving a 40lb, 2,500rpm gyroscope around one handed and generating 'lift'.
I saw him do this during a lecture, with a complete absence of any safety arrangements. It got our attention.