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Old 25th Nov 2020, 21:09
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Originally Posted by vilas
Check Airman you missed something from what I said. I said about raising the standard of pilots in raw handling before they come on board and more frequent visits to sim to retain that and not for few minutes, I didn't say that. Real aircraft raw data approach on two engine is easier that raw data with OEI and ATHR OFF in sim. Isn't it all about scan? If someone is terrible on two engines in real aircraft will be all over in the sim also. Those who are starting fresh will need more practice than those who are trying to just maintain it. Besides if opportunity presents practice by all means.
Centaurs, it all started with Bernard Ziegler who said "I am making an aircraft that will not allow pilots to make mistakes. Any one can fly it even my concierge can fly it".
Did you know that Ziegler killed several people while flying recklessly close to a ski lift ?
AF447 proved that his goal was not reached. A few ice crystals and you need a competent pilot in the front seat.
Originally Posted by FlyingStone
You can do 10 go-arounds in normal law on the A320, yet the one in direct law will have to look significantly different when it comes to control inputs. Apples and oranges.

I'm a big fan of hand flying and raw data (latter prohibited by employer unfortunately), but the reality is that (before Covid) we operate in ever busier airspace and at the end of the day, people in the back or shippers of freight pay us to deliver them or their goods safely and efficiently from A to B, not to have fun or to prove to somebody that we still have "what it takes". Could I handle flying raw data in and out of London TMA during a busy morning period? Yes. Is it a smart thing to do in real life, assuming you've got AFDS serviceable? I hope we all agree what the answer should be here.
True, direct law will feel very different. But if you're used to setting a pitch/power couple, and monitoring all flight parameters with an efficent scanning, then it shouldn't be too difficult to manage.

At my airline we clearly have two types of airports. Large capital airports like Paris, London, Amsterdam, etc.. and also smaller regional airports in our home country or elsewhere, like Porto, Nice, Bucarest..

It is important to underline that I don't want to hand fly just for fun. It is important to practise hand flying for safety reasons.
There were several incidents where pilots put the aircraft in severely complicated positions, due to them following the flight guidance system at a time where it malfunctioned. The capture of a false glide is a very common example.

So I'm not talking about hand flying raw data a VOR approach into London. But any unconstrained airport should be seen as an opportunity to sharpen our skills.
Originally Posted by Two's in
Because killing passengers is bad for business.
On the contrary automation dependency is starting to kill passengers. Turkish at amsterdam, asiana at SFO..
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