Originally Posted by
Rapid D
The recent PIA A320 accident. Why wasn't that caused by the aircraft vs pilots? That's your theory right? Aircraft type causes accidents...
That's the only crash involving the A320 in 4 years. If the A320 had 8 fatal accidents and 7 landing hull losses in the past 2 years (like the 737), even if all were blatant pilot error, it would not be illogical for some people to raise concerns.
Originally Posted by George Glass
Absolute drivel. There has been more nonsense written about the B737 since the MCAS incidents than there has about the faking of the landing on the Moon.
Seems like anytime after these recent accidents (UTAir, Xiamen Air, Miami Air, Pegasus, India Express, etc), if someone remotely raises questions on the 737 they are met with automatic rage at the mere suggestion; this attitude is not compatible with aviation safety. Reminds me of US427 in which Boeing, before the final report, blamed wake turbulence from a 727 as the cause, reality was different. People who bring airplane type into discussion are instantly labeled as "fanboys" (fanboys of who? Embraer? Airbus? McDonnell Douglas? non-737 Boeings? because none of those combined had any overrun hull losses in the past year).
Then someone will bring up the stats from 2018, which correctly states that the NG and the 320's hull loss rate was roughly equal at the time. But since 2018, the NG has had more major runway excursions than the 320 has had in its entire 32 year service; yes I realize most/all of them are pilot error and stats can "lie", it doesn't mean we should automatically dismiss those that bring aircraft type into the discussion.
Someone always brings up "the NG is the safest aircraft", which is demonstrably false. Yes, I'll take 0.08 per million over a car anyday, but there are types out there with 20+ million flight hours without a single fatal accident, operating in much more challenging conditions (E145, A319), repeating a statement over and over does not make it true.
Now regarding the accident, if it turns out to be true that a go around was attempted at the last moment, it would sadly be an exact repeat of the 2010 Air India Express accident. A tragic loss for all involved, and best wishes to the first responders and families.