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Old 11th Aug 2020, 02:08
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normanton
 
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Originally Posted by maggot

from the goodness of their hearts to get us flying or perhaps they see themselves not maintaining standdowns being tenable, long term... thus forcing more expensive RINs and CRs
Give AIPA legal a call. Ask them about standown time frames. You'll get the same answer I did.

Originally Posted by Fujiroll76
Normanton, let me take a guess...
Second Officer in the top 50 of the SO seniority list. It’s ok to be worried, we all are but your constant pushing of taking LWOP on here is no different to the threat being pushed by management.

I wouldn’t expect many to take the ER package but who really cares. This was in addition to the surplus and should the 60 odd not take it, they will slowly be forced out when the blow out their 65 birthday candles.

If you’re enforcing LWOP to protect yourself and remaining stood down then shame on you. Only you know and in a time like this it’s disgusting behaviour.


Its now Tuesday and the company is silent but from what I’ve heard overnight...high 300’s

Happy to hear otherwise.

Also Norm - I put the question to you if you’re being genuine..

Should the 196 be covered - why should we take LWOP and how long for? A future surplus will follow the same process and when would you think a future surplus be announced? Surely when a decision on the 380 is apparent..24 months time?

So to be passed over for a potential CR - Anything less than 24 months would have the same risk as not going at all.

Fuji
Credit where credit is due. You're smart. Anything less than 24 months is indeed foolish.

My only thought is your comment on "disgusting behaviour".

Is it disgusting behaviour for senior crew on Qrewroom to effectively say "tough luck, last on first off - enforce the EBA. Junior pilots to go". Then when the EBA is actually enforced by the company, allowing a 'get out of jail free' card to be played by people taking LWOP, suddenly I'm accused of disgusting behaviour? Talk about having your cake and eating it too!

Senior crew have the same choice as everyone else. Want to secure your career? Take LWOP. Seniority means nothing. It will not save you.
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