MoN - Glad to hear the cab's back OK. The SI will make for essential reading, but let's give the team time and space to do their job. On a personal level I will be very interested if further low level mitigation is recommended via sensor (unlikely given he costs, though it would be a significant step in reducing the DVE operating risk as well), tablet (possible - especially if it's a PED with zero integration - again…) or, most likely, extra restriction and supervision. Perhaps we could re-brigade those Gazelles from NI to the Sqns for Wires Recce purposes again!!! Reading between the lines, I've probably flown with both you and Crab; you're both professional aviators but now exist in quite different swim lanes. There's a clear desire on Crab's part to prevent the needless loss of airframe or life, but, perhaps, it's from a perspective where the view is somewhat obscured. There, who said I couldn't 'do' fluffy!!!!