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Old 17th Jul 2020, 04:23
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stillcallozhome
 
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Originally Posted by Blueskymine
If the junior SO is on LWOP at the time and there is a notice of CRs, and the senior SO is on SU, the CR may pass over the junior SO on LWOP and target the senior one. (At the companies discretion). Provided the junior SO took greater than 12 months LWOP by 07/08

If the SO who is on LWOP is nearing their return date and there is a notice of CR, they’d be crazy to return. They’d apply for an extension and I’d see no reason why the company wouldn’t approve it.

So the senior SO is CRd, joins the retrenchment list and when all LWOP pilots return or the company starts external recruitment the retrenchment list pilots will have another shot after a HR driven process of some unspecified description, and if successful, return to their original seniority in the base and rank that’s vacant. (PER 787 SO).

These are the facts. They may not be what we all want to hear. AIPA won’t be able to challenge it for risk of a ruling against seniority which won’t be great moving forward and that is pretty much that.

The real concern is if every SO took LWOP, the oldies give the bird and stick around and the gators start snapping into the FO ranks. Whilst unlikely, (it’s unlikely anyone will exit the business involuntarily) it’s worth considering the ramifications (Tino has admitted this is a possibility) and perhaps tightening a few words and clauses in EBA11.

LWOP as far as I can see it is insurance. You’re giving up 6-12 weeks of annual leave for a six digit salary and maintaining your position while avoiding a HR driven process going forward. You’re also maintaining your rank, base and fleet (provided it still exists). If you join the retrenchment list, you won’t.


Most of that is correct. The only thing that was said contrary to what you just wrote is that if the junior SO that is on 12 months lwop opts to extend their lwop as the company have stated there will be CR at the, for arguments sake, 13 month point, that pilot will not be bypassed for CR. Tino doubled down and said that junior pilot is only covered by the discretionary bypass, at this stage, for the period of their initial lwop period applied for prior to August 7th.

Therefore, the only way the junior pilot could avoid CR at that 13 month mark we are speaking about, would be to apply for more than 13 months lwop before August 7th. Eg. lwop for 2 years applied for prior to August 7th.

It’s a disgusting thing they’re doing but as it states in the eba, bypass is at their discretion. They’re drawing a line by using their discretion to bypass. Appalling.


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