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Old 17th Jul 2020, 01:20
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Originally Posted by common cents
So a more senior pilot on SU and a more junior pilot on LWOP are both still employed by the company. The industrial agreements in place give the company the option to by pass the LWOP pilot in case of CR.
Both still considered employees of the company but the company has the option to discriminate.
I’d love to be the judge presiding over that one!
You mean the LH EBA voted up recently?

Originally Posted by blow.n.gasket
So let me get this straight , taking this concept of the “Immaculate Passover “ for LWOP pilots to the nth degree , you could quite possibly end up with a situation of a vast number of junior pilots being convinced and herded into taking LWOP by Management and their FUD campaign of being CR’d if they aren’t protected by Managements application of “MAY” as in LH EA 15.10.2 (b).
Let us say, for arguments sake , that a senior pilot with decades of seniority , or a middle ranking pilot for that matter, due to past practice and principle application of Seniority would in a normal world have a fair idea of where they stood in the scheme of things , as has been shown by the Company’s application in other past decisions regarding application of the concept of seniority .
Now these middle ranking pilots and above suddenly find themselves subject to being CR’d due to an arbitrary managerial interpretation of the contract which “convinced” a vast number of more Junior pilots into taking LWOP due to the supposed protections afforded if they capitulate ..and these middle ranking and above pilots so affected aren’t anywhere even close to the bottom of the seniority pyramid scheme !
Is this truely how the application of Compulsory Redundancy was envisaged?
One would think that the intrinsic concept of “last on first off “ as pretty straight forward !
Obviously not when viewed through the cynical prism of Qantas interpretation !
Talk about unintended consequences !
Come on , get real , how long would this cynical Company interpretation last under legal scrutiny?
What other long upheld tenants are Management going to “re-interpret” cynically in these “unprecedented “ times one wonders !
You had a chance to remove the paragraph from the most recent LH EBA vote. I don't recall reading any posts from you about the topic.

You want to dance around on your seniority yet when there is a clause in the EBA that legally allows the company to go around it, it's suddenly not acceptable.

Talk about having your cake and eating it too.
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