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Old 1st Jul 2020, 15:59
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farsouth
 
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Originally Posted by Clandestino
Yeah! We need to throw away all the PCishness and ask ourselves the hard question: would the crew originally trained by the USAF ever be able to plonk their DC-9-32 N10556 onto the KIAH runway 27, gear up, at Vapp+61 kt and let it slide 6850 ft down the runway till it stops in the grass, 140 ft left of the runway centerline?
Here’s a link to the report on the accident referred to above. A lot of similarities, and certainly shows that the PIA accident cannot only be blamed on a non-“Western cultural” mindset.

For those who don’t wish to read the whole Houston DC9 report, the Co-pilot (PF) realised the flaps had not deployed, and that they were way too fast, (but not that the gear was not down)

Five seconds after the captain rejected his go-around request by stating “no you’re alright,” the first officer said “I can’t slow it down here now.” The captain again stated “you’re alright,” and the first officer replied “we’re just smokin’ in here.”
The Co pilot three times suggested going around before the captain took control, and landed, gear-up, at 40kts above the flaps up vref, and >60kts above the vref for the selected flap setting.

Both ex-USAF pilots.


https://reports.aviation-safety.net/...C93_N10556.pdf

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