thetimesreader84, just out of curiosity, how would you have expected this 29 pay point scheme to be implemented? Would it have been immediate pay cuts for everyone, or would it have been pay freezes? Would BA even have been happy with a 29 pay point scale? Do you even know what options were considered? Do you know what the cost to BA of each of the options would have been? The answer to every one of these questions and more, is that you do not have the faintest idea, and therefore you cannot possibly conclude that the selfish pilots made it happen. The pilots were simply presented with a vote, “Do you accept a 34pp scale for new entrants? We as your elected BALPA reps recommend you vote yes.” We all know ballots pretty much always go the way the union recommends, but that does not mean the pilot community is selfish and out to get you.