As an ATC cadet I used to spend occasional weekends unofficially helping to refuel the FB5 Vampires (and 1 Meteor 7) of 614 sdn RAFA at Llandow. Distinct memories include having to hold the tail down to clear a "wet start", the 14' flame that came out of the back end when it did start, and the piercing, high pitched noise from which my hearing never properly recovered. 614 also had a Meteor 8 which was a bit of a hangar queen. I was told that nobody wanted to fly it because they were afraid of the ejector seat.