Originally Posted by
InZed
EZ - I am one leaving the business shortly and in catch ups with other mates, I would say about a dozen of us are seriously looking to walk. We all agree that right now is not the time to walk as we have signed furlough contracts with references to ALPA documents etc.. But when it comes back to rehire, I believe I will go to FANZP. IMHO they do not have the stigma they once did attached to their name.
We get trained on the importance of communication in sims, there's networks for assistance with personal problems, EAP, and even human factors / every fleet refresher... heck the latest FR with the BA 777 crew and piss poor communication by the Capt causing evac with engines running... And here we have the command/dictator & chief of the Air NZ council screwing up the very basics of CRM and communication. I think communication and mental health is extremely important in life. It's particularly difficult in a macho culture particularly when it's predominantly male. John Kirwan lead the charge on this change... But I have heard CM
talking in a group of individuals about how he thinks the "PAN network is bulls**t" and "a waste on time", and that everyone "just needs to harden up". I did not vote for him last time, and I will not vote for him (if I get the chance to vote) next time. Attitudes like that filter down. CEO/Execs/Managers or even Council Heads... that negative, archaic and self-righteous attitude is abhorent.
Jesus Christ. Dare I say that letting KW or JW walk in the middle of all this process and replacing them with Carrie... might not have been a great move. Gotta feel for the new guy with no pilot knowledge walking straight into the middle of this **** show and trying to get his head around all of the contracts, variations and clauses/protections.
Some clear direction and CONSISTENCY is important during times like this. Jacinda saw the importance of this and kept David Clarke as Health Minister even after his numerous F ups... And the Qantas board has asked Alan Joyce to stick around for consistency of delivery for the recovery also. Took the helm in 2008, and will stay on until at least 2023 now... That's an exceptionally long run for a CEO in aviation.
Yes ALPA is treading on thin Ice with CM. He subscribes to the old school ways of thinking, when Pilots had punch-ups in the hotel lobby's. Hey, if he wants to go a few rounds I'm sure he'll find plenty of takers, but I'd say as a collective we've moved on from that.
The old guard is unfortunately also part of the problem. I recall a Captain telling me "not to worry young fella" (I'm into my Forties and about as grey as he is) because the Government will never let Air NZ go under. We'll just be a smaller Airline with 4-500 Pilots. Of course, he's in the top 200 and just wants a Salary for next 18 months. Couldn't give 2 ****s about the 700 Pilots in total who would lose their jobs if we down-sized to 500.
I fear Air NZ is becoming rudderless. They've lost a lot of good people during this, and replaced some average people with even worse ones. Pretty sure we all know what job Carrie was brought in to do.. but with Pilots, CC and Engineers under her, she's in the perfect position to absolutely destroy the Airline.
Ouch! Thats a hell of a leap. I for one won't be rubber-stamping it without a lot of personal due diligence. Creating a variation to an existing CEA every time there is an "unprecedented" situation, to "help out" ends up diluting the original document. It'll need to be weighed up carefully against the significant downward pressure coming in May on our T&Cs. "New-normal" has an expiry date. GF will have to change the record at some point, as will ALPA.
We're not helping the Airline. We're helping ourselves and our mates/colleagues. I wish more Pilots would see it this way. Management will always pay themselves bonuses, and share options, and celebrate each other in media. Capitalism at its finest. We need to ensure however, that all sacrifices are in deed made to help the collective and not the Exec.
In the Manual of the various Aircraft we fly/have flown, there's almost always a statement that says (in so many words) "While extensive, these procedure are not exhaustive and cannot cover every possible Scenario". QF32 is a good example of this.
The CEA is not an all-inclusive document, and has been shaped by historical events. Ever heard an American say you cannot change the Second Amendment? Why's it called an Amendment then? Every single negotiation round we push for changes/tweaks to the CEA and yet when a pandemic rolls around, suddenly it's written in stone handed down to moses by the almighty himself.
Perhaps adding a Pandemic section (since we're probably going to get one every decade or so) isn't such a silly idea.
Originally Posted by
RubberDogPoop
Zilch, I think in your hypothetical scenario, to separate the two LH fleets is not the intent. They would be the "external" operation for mine, and as long as we have just two 777s, we'll never see that threshold met. (The cynic in me would say - what a great reason to hang on to an otherwise inefficient fleet of 2+1 spare...)
Anyone know what the Bus is doing average roster-wise at the moment? I'd be surprised if that was over 60, if it is, beyond school hols it's not going to be a 3 month thing.
Make no mistake - this is a restructure, there'll be no appetite to be increasing pilot numbers.
You're probably right. So long as we have a 777 Fleet, with crew on "standby" they'll likely average the 2 somehow.
I haven't seen the latest Bus roster. Is it out yet? Probably wont be over 60 no... need the Regional flying for that. A 50 hour domestic roster can still feel like a flogging some days.