This has been an interesting discussion initiated by Ozzyozborn and it has produced a wide variety of responses. Unfortunately we now appear to be repeating ourselves and going around in circles.
It's great to see the Manchester thread coming to life and long may it continue.
Finally I feel pretty certain that Ozzyozborn is not related to Bagso - they may, for all I know, share a friendship, but there is definitely no bloodline! They, to my memory, share the same enthusiasm for Manchester, however the elegance of writing separates them!!
Have a nice evening.