Originally Posted by
Euclideanplane
.. Isn't that all contingent on the pilots anticipating a loss of both engines before it actually happened, and how would that be reasonable to expect?
The whole sequence of events is illogical, no point in searching for reasonable parts.
Originally Posted by MaximumPete
which I strongly suspect will involve the implications of inadequate human factors training. It may well be that this accident will be used to illustrate the consequences of shortcomings in this training. ...[deleted]
to operate a modern automated aircraft requires many skills and a conducive working environment.
Part of me suffers greatly at the face of such suggestions how the investigation will uncover missing training and broken CRM. Yes, the most likely scenario as we understand it today is a failure of the human element. But whatever happened is firmly outside the scope of Human Factors
in Aviation.
Imagine a doctor prepared for a surgery with his team, to remove a non-malignant tumour from the abdomen. The tools ready in hand, line drawn across the underbelly - and then cutting both ears off the skull and sawing them on the patient's back in a butterfly wing shape. What kind of missing training or remedial course would we propose to prevent re-occurence?
UNLESS the whole 1st approach was deliberate, except forgetting to drop the Dunlops in the heat of whatever game they were playing.