Bodie, I said they didn’t get traffic on the ground. I was talking about how if there was CTA they would’ve been denied a clearance on the ground. Read it.
They got traffic on departure. 2 minutes before they collided. and they collided at what was essentially LSALT. So even if they got the traffic right after takeoff, they still had no opportunity to do anything. That’s the issue here. Nothing to do with playing VFR and visually separating as you seemed to think that everyone was missing.
My story is exactly that from the preliminary report, I suggest you read it so that you know what everyone else here is talking about.
My only agenda Is uncovering why so much known information was omitted from the preliminary report.