There is no way Qantas will follow the contract and apply a RIN in accordance with it. Can you imagine a RIN in accordance with the contract with both 380 and 747. They'll argue in FW that it will send them bankrupt and it's better to make 3-400 pilots redundant outside the contact than make 30000 unemployed. I can't see the 380 ever coming back. They can actually keep 380 pilots on stand down indefinitely, unlike the 747 pilots. This is a recruitment thread though and I can't see recruitment for 5 years, especially if they make the junior pilots redundant and employ them back slowly in the future. I think we'll see a very different airline into the future unfortunately. Tough times ahead, we're in a changed world. I don't doubt what TLS and DT have to say on the webinars at present but we live in a dynamic world and plans will change. "We have no intention of" is probably correct at the moment but could be a reality down the track.