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It doesn't reall matter what you say: "Rate", "climb", whatever. The important thing is that things don't need to be rushed when it comes to clean up the plane. There is absolutely no need at all to retract the gear at the earliest possible moment, especially not during the (now mostly practised) noise abatement climbouts, which are done at V2+10kt (or 20). There is no danger of exceeding the gear retraction speed during that kind of initial climb, and the drag of the extended gear is no big factor at low speeds either, even in an engine-out scenario. So just wait as long as it takes to see all needels/tapes (altimeter, VSI, radio altimeter) pointing upward, wait another second or two or three (sometimes things change...) and then stretch out your hand towards the gear lever.
But I don't think that premature raising of the gear is a factor in this accident. It rather looks as if it was never down.
Quite correct What Next. You can add on pitch attitude 15 degrees and stable. So often see after EFTO wild pitch oscillations causing secondary unwanted descent. And add in stable flight. Not thrashing around. So , everything’s in place. Pointing up, flying up, stable, all instruments indicate
sustained climb including ALT and RADALT. IVSI is helpful but only one of many. Count to three- nice and slow CALL “GEAR UP “. PNH Crosschecks and confirms and repeats GEAR UP. Some airlines do it the other way. PNH calls “Pos Rate” having confirmed all of the above. PF checks too and calls GEAR UP.
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