Originally Posted by
Ecam321
Actually when I compared them it looked like the other way around. HKE contract better than Cos18 when there is no flying, like now. They equal out around 70 hours. Fly 70+ hours and Cos18 is better.
Also Cos18 has a far better MPF contribution than HKE.
Originally Posted by
HKE Insider
Interview Process:
1. Panel Interview with management pilots
2. Simulator Assessment
3. COMPASS Test
4. Medical Check
5. English Test
The simulator is done completely raw data. Expect to do V1 Cut, ILS Go around and other airwork such as intercepting a VOR Radial.
Salary
All salary is based on 50hrs guaranteed. If you fly more than 50hrs in the month you will be payed at an overtime hourly rate. On average expect to fly about 70hrs a month. The numbers quoted below is the total salary.
There is a relocation allowance.
First Officer
<1500hrs Jet = HK$53750
1500-3000hrs Jet = HK$68750
3000hrs+ Jet = HK$78750
Captain
<3000hrs Jet PIC = HK$106250
3000hrs+ Jet PIC = HK$116250
28 Days Annual Leave + Wrap around days off before and after you leave periods.
14 Days Sick Leave
Command Upgrades
HKE has always had a very active upgrade program. It was stopped due to the fleet change but has now started again this month. There are already a number of candidates selected for the coming months.Selection is based on seniority and you are required to be in the company for 12months and meet all flying experience requirements. Line captains are asked to submit their choices to training department as to who they think are suitable for promotion.
Lifestyle
Normally about 10 days off per month
3 Red eye flights per month
1 Overnight per month (Tokyo - may be removed during winter schedule)
The flying is good. The crews are very nice to work with. A good mixture from all around the world.
The company currently has 8 aircraft with the 9 by years end and many more coming next year.
The culture and standards of HKE is very different to Hong Kong Airlines. They are 2 separate companies.
Originally Posted by
KeepinItReelHK
Is it possible Hainan controls Pprune as well?
Anyone coming to Hong Kong, you should have read the posts from CX and KA boys&girls, so let me try to give you a briefing again.
HKExpress.
F/O with less than 1500 Jet Time: total package 56'250HKD/month
F/O with 1500<Jet Time<3000: total package 75'250HKD/month
F/O with more than 3000 Jet Time: total package 85'250HKD/month
Captain with less than 3000 Jet PIC: 114'000HKD/month
Captain with more than 3000 Jet PIC: 124'000HKD/month
That is up to 50hrs/month guaranteed.
From 50 to 60 hrs, F/O gets 500HKD/hour, Captain gets 800HKD/hour.
60 hours and above, F/O gets 650HKD/hour, Captain gets 1000HKD/hour.
3 levels of bonus, F/O average 60'000HKD/year, Captain 100'000HKD/year.
MPF 1500HKD/month (yes, one thousand five hundred dollars only) same for everyone.
No inflationary compensation, no increase whatsoever with the years of service. Loyalty is NOT rewarded.
28 days of Annual leave, take in blocks 8 days or more you get 4 days to travel.
No tickets back home. No Commuting. Annual Leave at the sole discretion of the GMF. Terrible most basic medical insurance by BoC. No school allowance.
F/O upgrades to Captains - 6 per year on average. Now there's 100 F/O in this company, do your math. The Director of Operations will even tell that nowhere have you signed to be upgraded to Captain.
Yes you can fly 100 hours/month and make a lot of money, but on average you can only fly 900hrs/year, so do your math on your average salary.
Cathay Dragon C-scale F/O year 1 compared to HKE Captain, having all the goodies in mind, makes only 10% less. And I haven't even started on Annual Leave.
Expenses in Hong Kong:
Housing: 25'000 - 40'000 (single or family) for anything decent.
Utilities: 4'000 - 5'000
Food: 10'000 - 20'000 (family or no family)
School: 8'000 - 13'000 (per kid, depending on the school and kids age)
Maid: 5'000 (and if you have a family you do need one in HK)
Tax: 15% if you're single, 10% if you have a family
Inflation: 4% per year
You still haven't gone out and had a beer with your friends, or paid the tickets back home.
If you're a single F/O and living modestly, or a single Captain just living OK, you could be saving some money. F/O on these terms will be struggling to get by, Captain on these terms will NOT be saving any money (or you could be saving zero anywhere else in the world, let's say your own country).
Anyone coming here will realise after a few months something is wrong.
Pilots have had enough. Turnover is 25%.
You do fly around 70 hours/month and you do it in 12 days, plus 4-5 standbys.
Everything else is below standard.
You have been warned.
Are the pay still the same like this one from hk express old thread?
and how much is relocation allowance?