Originally Posted by
PilotMatt2020
I agree with a few of the other comments above, we all know that everyone loves to voice their opinion on the industry, but just spouting constant 'negative spam' is counterproductive. No one is asking for sunshine and rainbows, but FACTS regarding CAE and/or easyJet is what this thread is about. For the good of everyone who is trying to use this thread for sharing information on this topic, we should keep it to just that. Finding good info is difficult at the best of times, but with all the extra 'crap' it's even more of a needle in a haystack than it needs to be.
Please stop dismissing the reality, we work in this part of the industry, I have colleagues in airlines who are in absolute pieces trying to work out how they'll stop the bailiffs coming in on their training debt and to provide for their family, one even works for a flag carrier, another for EasyJet and to see us dismissed as 'negative spam' is frankly insulting to these individuals. If you need evidence of this then I'm sure many of us, myself included will be able to provide you with it via DM.
You ask for real examples. As I said earlier in the thread,
search on the terms and endearment forum for Non TR EasyJet Recruitment, there you will see posts from 'Larki' who's son on CAE EasyJet MPL has had his contract terminated as a result of Covid 19 by EasyJet during the Type Rating phase. If you believe that it's negative spam then send a message the individual. You said recently that you want the 'relevent pieces of information' and guarantees, if the above isn't enough to show you that it isn't guaranteed then I'm not sure what will, FlyBe went under with MPL cadets having started only months before, many of us knew FlyBe were in trouble but the courses still rolled on, Flybe MPL trainees/graduates have posted in the last few weeks on this forum about their woes and are potentially facing further cost to convert their MPL training to ATPL.
Unless EasyJet is paying or securing finance for your training they hold almost no risk to letting you continue training which
you are paying for personally because they will be able to terminate contracts (as shown in an example above) if there is deemed any threat to the going concern of the business, they won't even blink an eye in exercising these rights in your training contract as all contracts have been passed through the legal team who have ensured CAE/EasyJet can call the shots whilst costing them almost nothing. At the same time they can hire you if it turns out there is no problem as has been the case until now.
As such,
you carry the financial burden, and the risk! Does this sound unfair? Of course, and that's why many of us are so vocal about how bad the industry has got, Aer Lingus on the other hand paid for their recent new pilots to train to completion in 2020 and now the industry has gone wrong, Aer Lingus carries the financial burden and risk, those pilots though without any flying to do are reasonably relaxed with no debts compared to EasyJet peers, some of which are 100k in debt.
The facts of those employed are today that nearly all of EasyJet's current pilots are furloughed or have taken serious paycuts, anyone in the training system has stopped training and is at risk on termination, a lot of this is on a master thread in PPRUNE. Nobody knows when we will be allowed out to socialise again, let-alone go flying across the world. Pilot George's blog which is searchable online, who probably wrote the best and honest training blog that has ever existed spells out the current situation well and the horrifying financial implications it may have if unable to pay training debts. It also mentions the exact same situations of some MPL contracts being revoked at the end of training.
I appreciate this might be a lifelong dream for you as it is for many and that the reality is very hard to swallow, but please, none of us get any 'kick' out of writing what is happening, it would take a rather sick individual to do so, we'd much rather write how absolutely booming it is and how all of us are getting pay rises and promotions. But at the moment many of us get the feeling you and others are seeking positive answers or more-so 'confirmation bias' to assure yourself that you should start training, having spent time writing this out for your benefit I urge you to take a more balanced view. All of us want re-assurement, but in your position, you have nothing to lose by delaying training.
This will get better in years to come, but now is not the time to be pursuing that dream you're imagining, it doesn't exist for now.
Good luck.